Moving up the dial a deal with Nissan is taking serious beyond the realm of satellite radio. It's straight into the path of star. That's stories that. Hi everyone I'm Tom back. Are really big deal that's how one analyst we spoke to describes today's announcement. That's serious extent will provide service is in Nissan brand vehicles. It's hard to Colin media blitz he's fox. This is how most of us know serious extent. It's radio stations available in 70%. Of new vehicles sold in the US. But serious fix them will now try its hand at services such as 24 hour emergency response. Stolen vehicle tracking and roadside assistance. Sound familiar. Seat that was a crash. I just hope it's the same kind of service provided by players like GM's OnStar. And a Gerald guided navigation. And integrated communications serious accent is the second big tech player to enter the cartel medics business in recent months. Back in July Verizon acquired accused telemann the company behind the embrace system in Mercedes vehicles. Sirius X. m.'s CEO Mel Karmazin says offering is a quote logical step for the company. And analyst Roger lines of strategy analytics says. He expects other automakers to follow in the suns' lead in use the serious acts and technology. Chrysler also making tech news it's offering a free one year trial of you connect to access. Features range from voice texting till one button access to 911 dispatchers. 2013 ram 15100. An SRT viper drivers will be the first to get you connect access. Yesterday we reported Tesla boss Elon Musk. Was mum on whether the EV maker would reach a deliberate target of 5000 model this year. Today cut its forecast for 2012 revenue because of a slower than expected rollout of the all electric model In a regulatory filing the company said quote certain suppliers have experienced delays in meeting our demand. Company now expects full year revenue to fall between 40440. Million dollars that's down from 560. To 600 million bucks. Let's move now to the 100000. Dollar karma plug in hybrid. And the folks at consumer reports the car is full of flaws. The magazine says the karma is tight on space has limited visibility. And a badly designed touch screen system that makes the dash controls quote. And ergonomic disaster. CR meantime a big fan of the redesigned Ford Escape saying it has jumped into the top tier of small suvs. Testers say the escape delivers Agile handling and the composed ride. But they say the optional my Ford touch infotainment system. Is still frustrate. That is are tied for today we're on Twitter at auto news TV. Take care we'll see yourself. 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When the 2.53 p4 came out and was undoubtedly the fastest chip, Tom's article was that basically it barely beat the Athlon, even though it led in every test. Athlons and Pentiums are just melted rock. Who's rock is better? Who cares, let's play some games Maybe, maybe not that would depend on the tests themselves and how much they translate to real world usage. Head over to anandtech or Ace's and you will see it all comes down to what test you choose to use. Its not a P4 killer, but the current p4 can't claim undisputed rights by any means. Give it a better chipset (aka nfore2), and things could really start to get interesting again. As for those p4 users hoping to upgrade to higher speed processors themselves, it looks like a new motherboard is in there future as well. Crash, you have been saying all along how DDR (even fast DDR) kills the P4's performance. When compared to THG's review this seems to prove your claim, at least I think it does. Do you concur that the differing results of the two reviews can be explained by P4's memory bandwidth differences (RDRAM in one case, DDR in the other)? I have so many cookies I now have a FAT problem! First of all, the Athlon's current performance limitation seems to be its L2 cache. As the CPU scales, its L2 cache, with is relatively high latency (pipelined may I add), would not scale as fast as the CPU would. I think we're seeing it reach beyond the "sweet spot" where the L2 cache with 8 cycle latency is still useful, but not a bottleneck. But yes, we're also getting into memory limitations, although I doubt dual channel DDR is really needed. I'd say something along the lines of a bus increase to 166 200MHz DDR. As for the price/performance thing. If you're talking about vendors, they actually charge a lot less for the CPU they sell in their machines than you'd find retail. Also, the 2.53's price has dropped to around $260 last I checked on pricewatch. Whether not it'll be a better deal than the $250ish (which is usually the price for the newest AMD chip upon introduction) is debatable. "We are Microsoft, resistance is futile." Bill Gates, 2015. Agreed about the chipset choice. At least they didn't use SDRAM. Half the benchmarks? Well that depends on whether you count the seven components of the SPEC ViewPerf suite separately or one benchmark suite. Likewise for the two Science Mark benchmarks. However, I'll concede your point. The SPEC ViewPerf results are very signifcant and XP 2600+ performs poorly. Did you notice the following comment in the conclusions? "We strongly suspect that the Athlon has enough firepower on board to perform well in CAD and 3D modeling workloads, but that the AGP port and memory bandwidth of the current AMD platform is simply not up to par with Intel's" Do you think Aceshardware found something else that is weak in VIA chipsets, namely the AGP port? or are they just fishing for excuses. They are obviously way off the mark with the memory bandwidth comment since they paired the P4 with DDR memory erasing the P4's memory bandwidth advantage. I have so many cookies I now have a FAT problem! This is to all you speed freaks out there. What do you need all of this speed for??? What can we honestly use "software wise" that we need this much speed. Isn't this war getting a little redundant. That is of course if your not making the next FF movie in your living room. This has been a huge hobby for myself for the past 8 years and I love it just as much as the next person. I currently have a P3 1Ghz and everything runs great but I still have the urge to upgrade. Maybe thats what it is an addiction kind of. Although I know I don't need the extra speed for anything I use I still want to upgrade. How fast do we have to go and will we ever come to a plateua? Please don't take this the wrong way, I just want to get everyone's opinion on this. :tongue: Cut the mullet!! :tongue: my original thought in bringing up the two articles on the latest and greatest intel and amd offerings is that progress is being made. i sure like to think that we, the community of tomshardware, had something to do with it. but without complaint, there cannot be no progress (at least not immediate). so my suggestion to all the amd fanboys out there is try complaining about amd more. make them stop using PR+ system. How fast do we have to go and will we ever come to a plateua? i love technology because it is the fastest industry for progress so far. it's human nature to want to do more. wouldn't you like to be able to do twice as much in half the time?
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